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James Powell
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Be The Change was without a doubt a landmark event and an important indicator of what needs to be done to further facilitate human evolution. Let not my following comment detract from the immense amount achieved, as my observation is intended for stimulating the planning of the future events, which now have a tremendous foundation to work from.
One of the fundamental problems of facilitating change is not only identifying what needs to be done, but also finding people who can lead any such initiatives. History has bequeathed to the current generation a global scenario in which a significant number, maybe even a majority percentage of the world�s population, of individuals (red v memes) and groups (blue v memes) are not going to be receptive to ideas they interpret as Euro-centric, white and/or neo-colonial. Therefore Be The Change 2005 faces a real challenge to find and bring forth individuals who are neither Euro-centric nor white� NOT as a token gesture, but in order to validate its ideas by showing their universal applicability. Only with demonstrable manifestations of a global articulation and applicability of such knowledge can the dynamics set in motion here, in my view, ultimately have any hope of being continuously sustained in the future.
From my perspective the general discussion about Islam and Christianity just didn�t achieve anything constructive, and I felt it was something of a token gesture. I appreciate both the need to cater to every level of the spiral and that the majority of the world�s population still ascribes to a form of collective religion, but perhaps there is a better way of dealing with the matter than that which was employed here?
Other than that I thought it was superb- congratulations to all involved in the organisation�
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chris.macrae
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I had a somewhat different view. That conversation may not have been the most enthralling of all the presentations but one could see that both participants were very passionate and experienced in East and West. What is depressing is there appears to have be no commonly accessible way to continue the dialogue with them. Of course that can be said about many of the speakers who seemed to be inviting continuing ideas (remember how every American speaker admitted the need to do more about their own country than they had yet fathomed out)
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chris.macrae
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I am becoming very interested in stories about families across generations who have been the light; possibly had more wisdom in their family than a profession or an empire all around them. I have started collecting materials on this for a site likely to be named kempandkemp.tv unless I can find another sponsor of community that sees these stories as part of its worldview for analysing what is happening locally.
Clearly at a primary level for this community, it is relevant to understand the stories the gandhi family tells across generations as well as their current attitudes to what bethechange means; and indeed who Gandhi if he was alive today would align with - is it possible that me might take a beyond nations' people approach
At very much a secondary level, but one maybe others here could also add personal stories to, both my family lines have had odd streams of wisdom that have changed the world in part
So my uncle David Kemp QC who died last year played one final act that contributed to the removal of the last Lord Chancellor for being economical with the truth about compound aritmentic ( a topic I as a mathematician (as well as co-researcher of John von Neumann's Biography) am fanatical about in all systemic contexts). David's father was the constitutional lawyer who advised Britain as far as he could how to constitutionally disentangle its Empire of India, as well as spending almost all the rest of his life as a second generation citizen of what was then called Bombay, whose legal welfare was his main career job. Before that his father had been part of the pharmacy that Brits of the Empire depended most on in Bombay as evident from the suburb that still takes the name Kemps' Corner.
I wont bother you with most of the absurdities of war that Macraes have spectated by accidentally being in wrong places at right times, and then tried to develop economic and systemic answers to so that the same geographical & politically opaque tragedy repeats. Although I did ask my father what his gut sense of history was on what we Brits did most wrong in our handover of Nigeria. He said handing the country over to the wicked cocktail of leaders hurriedly trained at Sandhurst and the London School of Economics, places which in decades just after the second world war at least trained a lot of leaders who went back to run their post-empire nations, whose track record I guess we can all map. I do realise there were other big variables as well, but it really is extrordinary from the perspective of knowledge-storytelling how many small-looking decisions have compounded our global problems today. I'd advise anyone who doesnt know to look up how modern Israel came about in its current geographical location as much as anything as an apparently quick decision of a British King, and some prior accidents of regional allegiances the Brits had in the mediterrean regions because they were strategically important whilst the spice trades with India were that era's equivalent of today's geopolitical manoeuvres over oil and tomorrow's over water.
If all this could help puncture national pomposity, I feel that would be virtually vaut le voyage to web everywhere - do you?
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Topic: 2005 Event Ideas
